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posted by [personal profile] annerb at 01:38pm on 05/02/2011 under
So, here's the thing. It's not a secret that I was not happy with the Peter not knowing that Alt!Olivia was not the right Olivia. And I was a little upset that Fringe, who had seemed so revolutionary in other ways (even the conception of giving us an alternate world just as nuanced and sympathetic as as own), was being sort of trite and predictable with the Peter/Olivia/Alt!Olivia triangle. Now, I have to admit that a lot of my trepidation was that after some good progress towards Peter/Olivia (the kiss, the 'you belong with me', the Olivia using him as a touchstone on the other side), I was scared that the show was going to use the Peter/Alt!Olivia stuff as an excuse to hit the reset button, shove the ship back into the recesses, and buy some more time on the UST meter (like, say, eight seasons. lol). So color me surprised when Fringe didn't drop all the ship like a hot potato after giving Olivia her chance to express her thoughts at the end of 'Marionette'. Instead, they seemed to be making small nuanced steps, keeping the ship alive, but not moving it too fast, really giving respect for the consequences and confusions that have arisen out of the situation. I liked the little things like the book, Olivia reading Alt!Olivia's files. Peter and Olivia slowly feeling each other out and learning to work together. Forgiveness in steps and sputters. Genuine.

That being said... At the beginning of 'Concentrate and Ask Him Again' those were my thoughts, happily optimistic. By the time we got to the coffee I was like, "stop beating a dead horse." And by the end of the ep? Really? You're going to make Peter and Olivia's love DETERMINE  THE  FATE  OF  THE  UNIVERSE? REALLY? I just... I can't decide if that is A) pure ridiculousness, B) badfic on my teevee screen, or C) (because I am big enough to admit that I have been wrong before) will somehow turn out to be genius, or at least enjoyable TV. (Please please please let it be enjoyable TV.)

Thoughts, oh wise flist?
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posted by [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com at 09:49pm on 05/02/2011
I have elected to take the ostrich approach to this season, which basically means reading everyone's spoilers and not watching the show until the season finale. I haven't seen anything since Entrada, and I'm kind of happier for it. Because I have thoughts (not to mention Issues), and they're not exactly positive.

That said...Alias did turn out okay. It took five years and TWO really obnoxious fake outs...but it did work out. So, maybe? I don't know. Mostly I just watch "Jacksonville" a lot and pretend that was the series finale.
 
posted by [identity profile] annerbhp.livejournal.com at 07:08am on 06/02/2011
It's amazing how much less painful TV is by DVD. Episodes drawn out week by week can suck. Lol. But I have to admit that Fringe has not failed me so far so I am remaining cautiously optimistic. :D
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posted by [personal profile] ziparumpazoo at 10:13pm on 05/02/2011
Naw, I don't believe it at all. First, Sam Weiss - nothing is ever straightforward with that guy. And that fact that he gives up that information so quickly to Nina? Nope. Nina's starting to get panicky. She's not in control of the information anymore, like she was at the beginning. Everything's snowballing and she's grasping at straws. Sam's up to something and Nina took the bait.

The show runners spent the whole first season laying the groundwork for season 2 and beyond, so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. (and really, would Olivia sit back and wait for Peter to decide? The woman who broke out of prison how many times on the other side and never waits for backup or rescue?)

Peter and Olivia slowly feeling each other out and learning to work together. Forgiveness in steps and sputters. Genuine.

This. I love this. Grown ups acting like grown ups, and a real character building period for Olivia (and Peter, to a point) with all that self-doubt... the tipping point between being dragged along by strange events and taking the bull by the horns.

But in case you need a little reassurance, a rec:
Better Not Tell You Now by CiderApples

*wanders off to go find appropriate icons*
 
posted by [identity profile] annerbhp.livejournal.com at 09:25pm on 06/02/2011
God, I want to believe that. (I can't help but thinking how much more I will enjoy this show when I can watch it straight through with the knowledge that it will not jump a shark on me. Lol.)

And nice little fic snippet. Heh. Thanks for the link.
 
posted by [identity profile] syxp.livejournal.com at 10:51pm on 05/02/2011
Haha.
I just finished watching that ep and I was thinking the same thing.

This show has been pretty good about taking things that don't seem like good ideas and making them work. So I'm cautiously optimistic.
 
posted by [identity profile] annerbhp.livejournal.com at 09:26pm on 06/02/2011
Very true. I guess I am still gun shy from the SG boys concept of 'romance'. Snerk.
 
posted by [identity profile] beanpot.livejournal.com at 01:27pm on 06/02/2011
First - how long has this Sam character been alive? I kind of missed that part....

And I was torn between kind of liking the Olivia and Nina scene and thinking it was way out of character for her to be spilling such intimate details to another person. I'm also slightly bothered that it's turning into this melodrama with everyone tiptoeing around her about Fauxlivia and Peter and not really addressing the bigger issues of the trauma of torture etc. Can someone also just tell her - "you are better than her because you don't kill innocent people?" How did people forget that?

So...I have tentative hope they will pull this off but I swear if Fauxlivia ends up pregnant, I am throwing my remote at the TV.

 
posted by [identity profile] syxp.livejournal.com at 05:37pm on 06/02/2011
Egads.
I hadn't considered the pregnancy angle.

*cries*
 
posted by [identity profile] annerbhp.livejournal.com at 09:27pm on 06/02/2011
Yeah, the bowling guy reappeared out of no where. Do we know what he is? It is a little disturbing having everyone tiptoeing around them and constantly watching Peter and Olivia like it's some soap opera unfolding around them.

DO NOT EVEN THINK THE 'P' WORD, BEAN. I will know who to blame!

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