posted by [identity profile] annerbhp.livejournal.com at 03:16am on 28/02/2008
ok, question. what do you consider songfic? because I only think it's song fic if someone is singing it or they are listening to the song. a fic inspired by a song is not songfic. Or if it is, everything I have ever written is. Lol
 
posted by [identity profile] syxp.livejournal.com at 03:18am on 28/02/2008
Obviously you need to make a poll!

A scientific conclusion about what constitutes songfic.

It's just what we need.
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posted by [identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com at 03:21am on 28/02/2008
Oh, I'm safe in that case. I've seen it refer to both, so I usually play it safe and assume the more all-encompassing idea. I'm like you - pretty much everything I write has been inspired by some emotion or image evoked by music. Usually the titles are song lines.

Hey! I can drop my fandom secret about writing songfic, then! Well, except for the one fic where Sam borrowed Jack's leather jacket and sang 'True Blue' by Madonna...
 
posted by [identity profile] annerbhp.livejournal.com at 03:25am on 28/02/2008
Yes, any Madonna impersonations puts you firmly in the songfic category.

I am sure my habit of putting lyrics at the end of my fics drives people batty, but I can't resist! (Although I did manage to resist for my indulgence fic. I was all proud and everything. lol)
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posted by [identity profile] surreallis.livejournal.com at 10:56am on 28/02/2008
Isn't songfic where the lyrics of the song are intertwined into the story in italics in a really obtrusive manner? Although, it can also be what you've said. So, in other words if you have the entire lyrics of 'My Heart Will Go On' by Celine Dion in your relatively short fic, including eight thousand repeats of the chorus, while you intersperse it with bits of narrative angst of Sam with a crystalline tear in her eye...

God forbid she's on stage singing...
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posted by [identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com at 11:04am on 28/02/2008
Isn't songfic where the lyrics of the song are intertwined into the story in italics in a really obtrusive manner?

Ooh, done that, too. Okay, I'll hang on to my fandom secret. *g*
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posted by [identity profile] surreallis.livejournal.com at 11:13am on 28/02/2008
Hahaha! Well, we all have to write a few, don't we? I mean, these years it's more of a cracktastic thing, but oh, early on, it was all about the romantic crystalline tears and the lyrics!
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posted by [personal profile] nandamai at 01:18pm on 28/02/2008
Isn't songfic where the lyrics of the song are intertwined into the story in italics in a really obtrusive manner?

That is my definition, as well. Or if they turn on the radio or go to a USAF dance (?!) and the song is playing ... and the author writes out all the lyrics in the middle of the story. Ugh. It's almost always a nightmarishly bad song in that case too.

A few lines as an epigraph or a footnote do not constitute songfic in my mind. Then they're just like poetry, though sometimes like very, very bad poetry.
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posted by [identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com at 03:22pm on 28/02/2008
Why is it always the most hideous song? That's what always gets me. It's always a song that I think, "NO! If any of them heard that on the radio, they would switch to another station. They would not, in a bazillion years, think it perfectly encompassed the deepest feelings of their heart!"

But perhaps this is because I have an adverse reaction to Celine Dion.

Hey, have you called your mother yet?
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posted by [personal profile] nandamai at 05:00pm on 28/02/2008
"NO! If any of them heard that on the radio, they would switch to another station. They would not, in a bazillion years, think it perfectly encompassed the deepest feelings of their heart!"

YES. A sappy teenager getting ready for the prom, maybe, but grownups in their 30s, 40s, and 50s? God, I hope not. But sadly, somebody buys all those Celine Dion albums. It's too horrifying to contemplate.

Ha. I have called my mother! At 8am. Thank you!
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posted by [identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com at 05:23pm on 28/02/2008
Clearly there are adults who identify deeply with some nasty, schmaltzy stuff. I myself do jump up and down when I hear certain ludicrously cheesy rock songs - but just because I do, that doesn't mean I think any of SG-1 would share my sentiments. I think Jack, for e.g., would pretty much loathe 90% of my music collection. Naturally, I think he's missing out on some great stuff - but that's Jack. There's no telling him.
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posted by [personal profile] nandamai at 05:27pm on 28/02/2008
Jack mostly buys opera, of course.

Though I bet he likes Stairway to Heaven too.
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posted by [identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com at 05:44pm on 28/02/2008
Aside from opera, I think he'd like anything he could sing loudly (and with the wrong lyrics) in his truck to annoy the others on long journeys. So, yeah - Stairway To Heaven. :)
 
posted by [identity profile] annerbhp.livejournal.com at 06:41pm on 28/02/2008
Am I pardoned if my Celine Dion songfic was actually crack? ;)
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posted by [identity profile] aurora-novarum.livejournal.com at 04:59pm on 28/02/2008
What's the difference between song fic and filk?

Actually, what the heck is filk?
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posted by [identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com at 05:27pm on 28/02/2008
According to Wikipedia (because I had no clue): "filk is a form of music created from within science fiction & fantasy fandom, often performed late at night at science fiction conventions".

So, actual songs - presumably just lyrics count, too, if you have a tune in mind. Otherwise it's poetry.

...Probably.
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posted by [identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com at 06:16pm on 28/02/2008
Filk is essentially fanfic of both music and the source material--it's often done to tunes of existing popular music, utilizing made-up lyrics regarding the show.

http://www.filk.com/filk101.htm

"Yoda" by Weird Al could, theoretically, be a filk song.

I have never seen filk performed, but I kinda want to.

I also really want to see the Klingon Beauty Pageant this year at D*Con.
 
posted by [identity profile] annerbhp.livejournal.com at 06:40pm on 28/02/2008
filk is giving new fandom themed lyrics to a song. god I wish I didn't actually know this stuff. lol
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posted by [identity profile] surreallis.livejournal.com at 09:08pm on 28/02/2008
Yeah, what they said. The most common form I've seen is, for example, Cosplayers who dress as Klingons making up Klingon folk songs and then singing them during filking sessions at a con.

So, like if we made up a Stargate song, like a Jaffa wedding song or something, that would be filking.

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